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Old 01-20-2009, 01:03 PM
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Coroner stole from my dead mother,police will do nothing

Hello all,
On May 30th 2007,My Mother died.The corner, went in my moms home along with the police Dept.Found her on the floor by her bed,dead.Now my Mother and i had this thing about jewlery,we wore rings on every finger,sometimes 2 on a finger.She also wore a gold necklace,my stepfarther had bought her after one of the many beatings he gave her to make up with her.It cost over 2 thousand dollars...When i asked the coroner where my moms jewelry was she told me she had none on.I knew this was a lie.And have many whittness to the fact that she always wore her jewelry.And plenty pictures.At the funeral home i aksed about my moms jewelry,they also told me she did nt have any on.After the funeral,i went and got a police report.Listed on the police report,was where the cornoer had taken my moms jewlery,and money out of my moms purse.So i asked her again,again she said there was no jewelry.I got a copy of the police report because there was also 2 guns missing.One my mother carried with her,and had a permit,the other was a rifle that hung on the wall for years.One that my stepfarter had gotten after me with,when he would beat my mom up.I then told the police Dept. i wonted to make a report against the corner,becaue the police report said she took the jewelry.Needless to say what i thought was them making a report aginst her,it was just written that i was making a stement that these things were missing.And what the police report said.nt that i wonted to press charges against her.You may ask why i have waited so long to do anything about this.Well i have nt waited,i wrote everyone i knew in Goverment.The only help i recived was from the comissioner in my moms district.I even wrote the mayor,yeah right,what a mayor.He and his body guards would not meet with me.Instead he got the city manager to call me.The city manager informed me that they(goverment)give the corners office some lead way in cases that they can use there bext judgement .Now who died and left him boss.?
During this time i rented my moms house out in Jan,2008,to some so called friends.My first mistake.But i had told them(my friends) that only the 3 people i rented it to could live there.OK,rent came due for the second time,with no rent payed,So i went to my moms house and asked them to move.During this time a guy about 5'11,265 pounds,came out of my moms house and told me to leave the property.I asked who he was and he told me some fake name.I then told him he was not supposed to be living there,that was our agreement.He informed me that he had been living there since he got out of jail.Wow,i told him he had to go,at that time he knocked me on my rumplestiltskin.(I forgot to tell you i am disabled and most of the time im in a wheel chair.But this time i was walking with my cane a friend had bought for me)This same friend was with me,while he was picking me up off the ground,this same guy was about to hit him in the head with a hammer.When i fell,my cane broke,inside was a sword,not sharp,but none the less i sword.My friend had bought it for me for protection,i cant run,and scared of guns(my ex husband shot me in the head years ago(hense part of my disablity).
At this time i told the police officers i had learned one of the girls i rented to was wonted in Lee county for burglery,and this guy had just got out of jail.And was not supposed to be there.The girl i rented the house to,even told the officers there about our agreemnt about who could live there.I told the police i wonted to press charges,they said if i did i would be charged to.I said ok,i would get out,but that this guy would go back where he came from,to jail.They would not even make the guy come out of the house.Instead they told me to go get an eviction notice.I did.Then i had the lights cut out,they were in my name.Now these people destroyed my mothers home,putting holes in the wall,human feces in the bath tub,and the floor.And they had cut the power back on there self.I even reported that.To WGLights.They told me i had to make a police report.Here we go again.Mean time i had to give these people time to move.They left owing me 14 hundred dollars rent,not to count all the detruction to my moms home,That is now mine.When i went and got copys of that police report,i talked to the cops who were on the scenes,CO.He told me that they should have took us both to jail as i asked.Now the guy has moved out of town,and i cant get anything,rent,or compensated for the detruction.No one went to jail,as they should have.Now i have wrote everyone i know in Goverment,as i said the only help i recived was from one comissioner.,bless that man dear Lord.The police are supposed to serve and protect.Well they sure let me down.Today i am going to magestrate court,i was informed that i needed to take it there and file charges against the Corner becuase the jewelery that was missing was only worth about 4 thousand dollars.But that s not the point,it was not hers to take,to give to anyone.It s not the money.Its my moms jewelry,it means alot to me.And the police need to do there job.I am going to see what i can do about them not doing there job also.The thing is,you always need a lawyer in cases like this.Well i have nt found one that wonts to go against Albany.Who do i go to Now?I need some help.Anyone with any ideas,please contact me.I do have some money saved up for a lawyer,plus i have extra income comming in.So i may not can pay all at one time.But i just need someone help me fight for my rights.Thank you.
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Old 01-20-2009, 02:27 PM
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First, let me offer my condolences on the loss of your mother. I am very sorry to read of her passing.

With regard to your posting, there is so much information included there it would be well nigh impossible to address it all in a forum such as this.

However, the reason I believe you are having trouble is because of a little thing called PROOF.

You are equating the coroner being there at the scene with the items that are missing. It is entirely possible that the police officers who were first at the scene, took the items and simply wrote down that the coroner took them. Also, it would not be customary for them to take things from the body BEFORE removing it from the house. In other words, customarily, the body would be removed, and THEN the coroner would remove the items.

I happen to know this from my husbands death in an accident last year. He died on the side of the road, and his body was taken to the hospital where the coroner removed his rings, etc. money from his pockets, belt, etc. and she personally returned them to me with an itemized list. The police did not make the list, nor did the EMS that attended him before he died. That is a function for which the coroner is usually responsible.
So, it seems odd that the POLICE would have anything to do with reporting where the jewelry went.

You may have a gut instinct that someone specific took this jewelry. However, the law is about what you can prove. And the fact the coroner was THERE (even though countless others were there BEFORE her) doesn't mean he/she took the items. You need to be able to PROVE your allegations. And, you cannot prove your mother even was wearing those items based on "she always did"----but you cannot testify she was wearing them at the moment she unfortunately expired.

I wish I could tell you otherwise. But unless you can prove a relationship between the presence of the coroner and the missing items, you cannot successfully bring a case against the coroner.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:51 AM
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Coroner said she took it after i got police report

Hi,The cornoer told me after i had goten the police report that she did take the jewelry and money from my mother.She admits this.But says she gave it to a family member.Now before i got the police report,she had said she seen no jewelry.I do have proof of what she wore,she was active in the VFW.All of her co wokers,and friends have come foward to say she always wore her jewelry.The police report states she took it,and polce signed off on the fact.Now she admits to taking it,but she had no right to do so,nor was it her right to give it to anyone.Thank you so much for caring enough to say you are sorry for my greif.People do not understand,the reason im fighting this so hard is that the police did not do there job,in investagating,and when someone dies,does that give anyone permission to go in and take things?If she did this to me,who else has she done it to,or who else will she do it to.Do i not have right also?
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:07 AM
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Hi,The cornoer told me after i had goten the police report that she did take the jewelry and money from my mother.She admits this.But says she gave it to a family member.Now before i got the police report,she had said she seen no jewelry.I do have proof of what she wore,she was active in the VFW.All of her co wokers,and friends have come foward to say she always wore her jewelry.The police report states she took it,and polce signed off on the fact.Now she admits to taking it,but she had no right to do so,nor was it her right to give it to anyone.Thank you so much for caring enough to say you are sorry for my greif.People do not understand,the reason im fighting this so hard is that the police did not do there job,in investagating,and when someone dies,does that give anyone permission to go in and take things?If she did this to me,who else has she done it to,or who else will she do it to.Do i not have right also?
I understand what you are saying. But it is the coroners job to remove the jewelry and return it to the family. I do know that at times, things are missing. An example is when my husband died, I wanted everything--his clothing, his shoes, glasses, cell phone, hat, etc. However, given the violence of his death, many of those things were lost. I did, though, expect to get his clothing back. The coroner told me she released his clothing to the funeral home, the funeral home said to coroner never gave them his clothing. Finally after beating the bushes, it was determined that the process the clothing went through (they sterlize it, etc.) ruined the clothing so intead of giving it to me as it was, they decided it was just "trash" and threw it away. However, no one gave me that choice and I was angry. In any regard, they did give me an itemized list of his belongings. I do know that they customarily give this to the closest of kin, so it is possible that they give the items to someone else in your family. Why would you assume they would give it to you if there are other siblings or family members there?

The bottom line is they all may be telling the truth. The person they gave the jewlery to should have had to sign something stating they received these items. In order to prosecute, you would have to prove the coroner TOOK the items. Proving mother had them on at the time of her death doesn't help prove WHO took them. And, given the fact that guns are missing, too, points to a family member, friend, or neighbor, more than the coroner.

Coroners are educated, accomplished public servants---this doesn't mean they are ALL HONEST by any means, but it doesn't make sense that someone would risk their entire livelihood for a few rings or a gun.

I understand your frustration, and I'm sorry, but I hope you can understand my point. You need to have factual proof that a crime has been committed---one has--your mother's stuff is missing. But, proving the coroner did this is going to be difficult, based on how you have related the incidents.

I wish you well.
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Old 01-22-2009, 03:54 AM
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First let me say.i am sorry for your loss also.I did not mean to sound so cold hearted.Im not that way.The loss of anyones loved one is hard.I know that better now than i ever have.
I recived an answer to my court case from the corner.In it she states she did take the items,but not off of my mother,but out of a makeup case she found in my moms house,which she always kept in the kitchen/ dinning room.Now she said she was looking for id to prove who my mother was.Did not she get that proof when she went in my moms purse and got the money out of it.Also i am the only next of kin here where my mom lives.I have one brother,he lives in S.C.,he did not get here till the next day.The other was my mothers sister,who lives in Stone mountain.2 hours away.The corner said my mom had no jewelry on her person,that she found it in her make up case,ok why not leave it there.My whole thing is she had no buisness taking things that were in my moms house.She said she did it because of the neighborhood which my mom lived in.My mother lived there for 30 years,and i lived there for 7 years.My mother had steel bars on her windows,she had steel doors,she had pad locks on each door.She also had a alarm system with a company.In those 30 years of her living there nothing had been stolen,she had no problems from anyone around her,she loved everyone,black,white ornge.She thrived on her privacy.And everyone around her loved her.The thing that bothers me is i never accussed her of stealing these things.I went by what the police report said,that she had took those things.She had the right if my mom was wearing these things to take them in her possion,but not to go through her stuff and as she has said,take the shinnie stuff...Ok then,why did she not take the guns?There is no report on the guns other than what i filed.Then the day of the funeral i was called into the office at the funeral home,The owner of the funeral home asked me my brother,my aunt,and some others at the funeral just came in with me.(I have seizures,so they were all watching me carefully.)The owner Mike then told me that he understood i was looking for some of my moms jewelry,i said yeas,he handed me a small bag,it had 5 rings in it,one was not real,but it was my moms,also a key that he said was pined to my moms bra.(which went to my moms front screen door,she always did that when she was working in the yard,so that she could lock the screen door.)I asked Mike where he got them,he said they came in with her body.My thing is that someone is lieing somewhere.The corner said she had no jewelry on.And there were plenty of whittnesses to this.And then i never accused the cornor of taking these items,i just asked where they were.The police are the ones who said she took these items in there police report.I could send you copys of the letters,and it would be much easier to understand.But i would nt wont it all posted on here.Not untill the case is over anyway.My mother died May 30 th.well the week before was mothers day,i sent my mom a card via the mail,then 3 days later took her a rose bush,i did this every mothers day.She so loved roses,and had her own rose garden.But my mom was sick,she had the flu.She had told me that she did not wont me to catch it,as i have very low resistenst to germs.I can hear someone having a cold,and i get it.lol....OK maybe im not that bad,but my point is,that my mom knew how i was about catching things.So i took her here rose bush thinking if i gave her a couple days to get better i could atleast hug her.Well,moma told me to just give it to her and she would plant it,but would not hug me,Her exact word"honey i dont wont you to get sick."I tried that day to get my mom to go to the hospital,even told her i d call the ems.She asked me not to.So i did nt.That i have to live with,maybe had i called anyway she would still be alive.
But my point being,that where does anyone,police,cornor,anyone in goverment for that matter,think they can just go through someones things and get what they think is worth anything.And then when asked,the corner said she had saw no jewelry.Why lie.Why not tell the truth then.Then all of this would not have happened.If the cornor did this to me,who else has she done it to?I know it seems as if im fighting a losing battle going against people in goverment,but i voted and help put them there.I just wont the truth,and my moms stuff back.Thats all,Thank you so much for all your time on this,and again i am so very sorry for your loss..May God be with you and Yours...Grace
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:15 AM
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Went to mag Court,or should i say comedy court

Well i went to mag court on my moms jewelry being taken,the police man who wrote the report up was very nice and told the truth.He told the judge that the corner took the jewelry from my moms dresser in her bed room.Wher the corner said she got it from a living room box and took it so no one else would take it.During court one of my whittness was on the stand,and her cell phone went off.The judge scolded here,asked her if she did not read the sign on the door before comming into court.No food No Drinks,And no cell phones.So the bailf took it from her,and gave it to someone outside the court room.When my next whittness came in,the judges cell phone went off not once but twice,and he just laughed,then the lawyer for the coroner,his cell went off also.They just laughed.I saw nothing funny about it.All the court reportes were in supior court so they told me to take a recoder with me and the would write it up for me.I did this,but the judge told me,:im not recording it,and he sure was nt going to let me.Need less to say.The corner was found to be the winner,and i am to pay her lawyer fees.Now this was a great injustice.All the lawyers her told me to go to mag. court by myself,well i did.And the Corner had one very expensive lawyer,instead of using the county lawyer that she worked for.Then the judge would not even look at any of my papers,my eveadence,he said he already had it all.i had done like the lawyers told me,made folders with copies for her lawyer,the citys lawyer,and the cornoers lawyer,Do you know they would not even except them.
They said they had all the paper work on the case.But they did nt have my evadence.And would not except it.Then the judge let the cornoers lawyer put up a big sreen,and had a list of the things that she took from my moms house,but things were added,and left out.But the judge would not even read my report.He dismissed the case against the city,and then told me he would let me know his decision in a few days.i knew i was in troublt the next day when i got his letter.She had won.And now i have to pay her lawyers.Another thing.The probate judge was called as a whittness at the last min.Why i dont know.But she came in and told the judge my moms house was only worth 23 thousand dollars.Now to me it sounds like they are going to try and take my moms home because i am disabled,and i dont know where i d get the money to pay her high price lawyers.And she knew this.Not onkly that.But the lawyer who told me to go to mag. court by myself,and if i lost he would help me appeal for 25 hundred dollars.Well i called him,he went up to 5 thousand.Sounds crooked to me.But who am i to judge.Im just a small person trying to keep what my mom left me.I have had to fight family,pay familey,all this to get what i do have of my moms.And now i think they are going to try and take that from me.This is so wrong.I am the only family member who lived here with my mom.saw her almost everyday.I have prayed,i have begged,and pleaded.All i wanted was the truth.And i guess i will never get that.I still dont know how my mom died.Why there was blood on her bed,why she was half under the bed,and why the coroner took her things,and never even looked at or touched my moms body...CRYING in Ga.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:06 AM
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And from a magistrate's court you received a flogging. This is where I usually get on my soap box and remind people that suing a city or governmental body in a court where the city hires the judge is just folly. Frankly, when a city employee or police or fireman is charged with anything, there is seldom a conviction. The judges look the other way... they give our men in blue the leeway to be thieves. There are judges who use bias in their court, there are lawyers who send you off to be hammered because they know the system.

It seems like a loss is going to be likely. Whoever tagged your mother's jewelry at $4000 could have been wrong... with the price of gold at more than $900 per ounce, a single heavy gold necklace could be worth that much.
Without a jeweler's receipt or an estimate by one who had repaired it, it would be difficult to put a price to it. Since you didn't get a receipt from the coronor stating WHAT she gave to WHOM and whose SIGNATURE was on it as a receipt, you should have simply stopped at suing the coroner... and not sued the city. That would have been my advice.

So they have added insult to injury and now they think they will come after your assets to pay an attorney for a single day's work. I don't know any lawyer who is worth more than $300 per hour in magistrates court. How long were you in court? Think about it. Take it back to court to that same magistrate and ask if he thinks the bill you receive for her lawyer(s) is realistic.

Then... when it comes time for an election, vote with your heart and tell all your friends and acquaintances that this judge protected a city employee who finally admitted taking jewelry from your mother's bedroom... and had no documentation on what she did with it... and that he told you to pay that city employee's legal bill.... just to make sure you understood WHO WAS ON TOP IN THAT TOWN. See if you can discuss this with political leaders so they know what you've been through. A coroner should HAVE TO COME UP WITH DOCUMENTATION ON WHAT SHE DID WITH VALUABLES SHE RANSACKED FROM YOUR MOTHER'S HOUSE. Keep your story simple. Don't put in all the stuff... just tell the basics of him saying your evidence and police statements and the admission by the coroner were NOT sufficient. And then ASK your Mayor why the coroner didn't have to find a reasonable receipt on what she did with the gold jewelry. This issue alone should be enough to make this whole slimy mess a big question in time for the magistrate's election. Perhaps you will at least see that new procedures are put in place for the coroner's office.
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:38 AM
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I know i was who doed,thats Albany Georgia for you.What got me was i had talked to commision members and they told me what to do.Take it to mag.Court.So i did.They told,(The lawyers i talked to) that i would not need a lawyer for mag.Court.Boy was they wrong.I do plan on an appeal.Like i said this women took part of my mom.And yes i thought about just giving up.and paying what i had to.But then i thought about how many other people she may hyave done this way.She owns 2 funeral homes here.And when all this took place at first she said she did not find any jewelry.But what gets me most is my mom is gone.And i dont know what from.Like i said there was blood on my moms bed,She was found under the bed.And the cornoer admited she never even saw all of my moms body.So how can she determine how she died.I thought that was the coroners job to find out the cause of death.But she was to busy going through my moms house and taking things.Money for the stuff means nothing to me.What mateers is that she took it.Her lawyers had this scrawney investergater come to my house to deliver papers,that i got in the mailm the next day.I told him since i live in a diffrent county,for him not to come back to my home without our sheriff.He just laughed.The police man who wrote up what she took from my moms home was honest.He told where she got the jewelry and the money.The coroner said she took it because of the neighborhood my mom lived in.Yeah it s kinda bad.But,i told the judge,the lawyers,and everyone that was there that not to fool there self,they lived in the same kind of neighborhoods.Thats when the coroner said she owned 2 funeral homes,and that she does take expensive stuff from ruff neighborhoods because when she takes a dead body out,that people in that neighborhood would gop in and steal things.My moms house was like fort nox.Hard to get into,and hard to get out of.I also got the report of the alarm system she had on her house,and there are so many things that just dont add up.All i want is it to be known that she does take things from peoples house.And at the time of death,that is the last thing peopel think about,is what is missing.My mom died,i was worried about that.Im not a bad person,i only want people to know that this does happen and to watch for it.I do thank you all for your advice.and your kindness.And i will do the thing you told me to do.Thank you all and God Bless.I ll write more after i see what goes own with my appeal.i am dropping the city suit.But i am not going to drop it with her.I want a jury to make the decision,not a judge.I know the people here,and they would not like this if it was done to them....Thanks Again....
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This case belongs in general sessions, not small claims.
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Old 04-09-2009, 05:18 AM
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Well,i dont know which way to go now.I thought i had found a lawyer that would take it from out of town.Why in the world cant the law be like it s supposed to be.Does nt our constutution mean any thing any more.It seems like all the big people want to do is keep a race issue going.The goverment is the one who keeps this up.When we have real thing going on in the world that need to be looked at.Goverment wants to make all of us the bad people.But it s them that keep things going.But real issues like mine just get looked over.I ve wrote and wrote and cried.And it has gotten me know where.I know there are honest lawyers out there.And i dont mind paying for what i need.But how do i win.This Cornoner is going to do this to someone else if she has nt already.And all the people,commisioners,lawyers,even a judge.They just let it go.I wonder if they were in my shoes what they would do.?It should not be about money,it should be about whats right and whats wrong.Since i started all this like i had said before,my life has been threatened,and the police do nothing.What do i have to do die myself.It s not been by city officals,but one guy who is wanted in 2 counties here,and well you know they just cant seem to catch him.I even took pictures of the truck he used to try and run me down,tag # and all,i even got the address where he lives now.I know if i can do this the law can.But thats not there concern.They are to busy protecting there own.You know i wish i was nt diabled,even tho im 50,id go back to school and become a lawyer to protect people like me.Do you know thats why i got my computer years ago.Alot of older people in the subdivision where i live was getting ripped off from a home inprovement company that was installing sidding on there homes.Which was half you know what done.I worte people and got them help.Then there was someone abusing animals here,i wrote and got help for them.Why cant i get help.Honest help.Im not a bad person,i just want whats right.And i dont know what i would do if i did nt have this place here to write.I have even gone so far now as to call mental health to get me some help.I just need someone to talk to.And i know you all get tired of hearing the same ole same ole.But i know there is something some how,some where i can do.I just dont know how to find it.I ve prayed,and God has answered me so many times.I think i ask to much of him sometimes.But they say he will never give us more than we can handle.I know i have alot of anger in me.But all my life has been helping people one way or another.Do you know i even wrote the White house.I should have know that was a lost cause.But there needs to be some kind of law protecting people,not just me.But i know there are otheres out there in worse shape than me.Any way i ll get off here for now.Prayers to all of you out there.And thanks so much for listening to me.You dont know what a diffrence that has made.Thank you.. And thanks so much to you Grace!

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