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Old 11-10-2006, 01:43 PM
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Exclamation Is this a Legal Forum or a Boxing Ring?

Do I detect a sense of superiority here - in a forum of all places? When did one know all and all others knew none? Remind me to quiz the lawyer, if I should ever need one, if he/she thinks they are almighty? Better yet, will need to check with the judge and see what he/she thinks of almighty lawyers? Many judges don't care for know-it-all lawyers and don't want to lose a case because of a lawyer's superiority complex.

Now what was the legal question again?

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Old 11-10-2006, 05:54 PM
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I need information in finding out how do i go about filing a complaint against a police dept.,and 3 officers. My Fourth & Fifth amendment rights were violated during an incident on the highway in the state of maryland. I need help finding an attorney that deals with racial profiling,emotional distress,among other things.please email me with any useful information!!!!
The original question from this person was in asking where to find an attorney (or so I thought) in what I consider to be a potentially volatile, racially (and emotionally) charged situation. I was given enough information with the question to direct them to various outside sources (not the Internet) where they may be better able to contact an experienced, qualified and licensed individual to discuss their case "one on one," especially if they are considering tackling a law enforcement agency. This situation has all the signs of what I consider to be 'legal quicksand' and certainly merits the best legal help they can afford.
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Old 11-10-2006, 06:07 PM
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Lightbulb And the Legal Answer was?

To future clarify the superiority complex in the boxing ring. Did GentleGrace ever answer the legal question? This is a legal forum, isn't it? Not an English class. Furthermore, most postings are not from lawyers, that by the way generally have secretaries and/or paralegals that handle proper English, but are from the general public more concerned with their legal questions regardless of sentence structure. Run on sentence?

Yes, there are many options that g_beckford may seek to find the right direction to take action. All of the aforementioned by TheJury'sStillOut are some of many options. Asking others often can reduce taking the wrong or long way. Believe it or not, my guess is that g_beckford will find others who have been down the same road and point g_beckford in the right direction or to the right attorney.
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:16 PM
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Top Ten Reasons You Shouldn't Create a Second User Name That Has Never Posted Before And Come Directly To Your Own Defense Incognito...

Any takers?

Muse quietly so as not to disturb those of us who are pondering the weighty import of the phrase : "To future clarify...."


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Old 11-11-2006, 06:46 AM
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I need information in finding out how do i go about filing a complaint against a police dept.,and 3 officers. My Fourth & Fifth amendment rights were violated during an incident on the highway in the state of maryland. I need help finding an attorney that deals with racial profiling,emotional distress,among other things.please email me with any useful information!!!!
" ...We use internet sources as potential leads for stories. We carefully check the sources and authenticate information. We do not consider much of the internet as a factual source. We will no longer visit the [name deleted] web site ... because of [its] continued proliferation of gossip, rumor and innuendo in their misguided attempt to support American Indian issues. ...misleading and misinformed sources may harm innocent people and cause others unnecessary anguish. " (Quote by the American Indian Movement.)

I particularly like the end of that quote. Again..good luck
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" ...We use internet sources as potential leads for stories. We carefully check the sources and authenticate information. We do not consider much of the internet as a factual source. We will no longer visit the [name deleted] web site ... because of [its] continued proliferation of gossip, rumor and innuendo in their misguided attempt to support American Indian issues. ...misleading and misinformed sources may harm innocent people and cause others unnecessary anguish. " (Quote by the American Indian Movement.)

I particularly like the end of that quote. Again..good luck
The quote above that you attribute to the "American Indian Movement", is, in reality, nothing of the sort. The quote, criticizing First Nation, was originally said by the editor of Indian County Today (ICT) and was reprinted on the First Nations Email Campaigns web site where you apparently saw it. The quote, in its contextual entirety, had NOTHING to do with unscrupulous users of the Internet, but rather was a specific barb aimed at the opponent ( First Nation ) by Indian Country Today.(http://www.dickshovel.com/campaign.html )

It is glaringly apparent that you not only know nothing about what it means to be a Native American, you also know absolutely nothing about what it means to be accurate. You have provided the readers of this forum with a perfect example of what you so glibly cautioned about in your first posting---and that is unlearned, unqualified people who give misleading and incorrect information.

Two additional things come to mind:

First of all, my local library provides an assortment of "women's magazines", gossip columns, tabloids, etc. and other such drivel I find hugely irrelevant, inappropriate, and certainly unreliable. However, I would no more say the Library isn't a "reliable place to get information" than I would say the Internet is unreliable. Furthermore, to use the biased statements of a group such as First Nations as unilateral "proof" that the Internet is unreliable IS a perfect example of the irresponsible propagation of information you say you are against.

Secondly, research in any PROFESSIONAL field requires the use of SCHOLARLY JOURNAL articles, books, encyclopedias ( such as Wikipedia, the legitimate source I used for my original posting--the source you mocked) and other such information complied by people who are qualified degreed professionals in their respective fields. These are people and institutions without bias. While my personal opinion about AIM or First Nations is irrelevant, even though I have lived on Indian reservations/reserves both in Canada and the United States, they clearly have a bias that has no place in legitimate research---yet you are quoting them here as being an authority on the value of the Internet as a whole. These prejudicial groups with a strident bias decrying the value of the entire Internet based on their objection to another site that doesn't uphold their particular political bent is a PERFECT example of what you say we need to be wary of, yet here you are, propagating one and the same.

I challenge you to find a degreed QUALIFIED professional authority on the Internet, who has deemed the Internet, as a whole, unreliable. Perhaps the places you frequent are fraught with insipidness and irrelevance, but those of us who are lawyers, teachers, doctors, nurses, etc. are part of professional organizations, and institutions of higher learning. This means we have immediate access, via the Internet, to law databases, educational resources, and other reputable sites/search engines, such as Lexis Nexis or PubMed, etc.

Interesting thought--why USE the Internet to WARN people against accepting the advice of strangers online? Why sit here and give advice online if you don't believe in the value of this medium? This really is simply beyond me. Someone, please, take down the ATTENDANCE MANDATORY sign immediately.

No, really, I insist.

The proverbial bottom line: the Internet is a tool that functions no better than the intellectual prowess of the person wielding it. In common vernacular: garbage in=garbage out.

Perhaps therein lies our difference in perspective.

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Old 11-12-2006, 02:31 PM
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...ignoring the whooping laughter of my Native American brothers to the north, west and south of me and taking my licensed, professional backside to an intelligent and noteworthy discussion ... I hope I offered some assistance to the original question just before the frenzied rush to not only judge, but convict.

"Your honor, I rest my case." Perry Mason
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Old 11-12-2006, 04:37 PM
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...ignoring the whooping laughter of my Native American brothers to the north, west and south of me and taking my licensed, professional backside to an intelligent and noteworthy discussion ... I hope I offered some assistance to the original question just before the frenzied rush to not only judge, but convict.

"Your honor, I rest my case." Perry Mason

Packing up the split infinitives, and holding open the door...

Collect your 2 years supply of Rice-A-Roni with our compliments.

Thanks for playing.



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The FBI is in charge of that. They wont help you directly but it's a needed step should you sue later because your attorney can ask for records.
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