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Old 06-26-2008, 07:03 PM
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Default What do in the event of changing a birth certificate accordingly when mom is married

My name is Lee, My son has his mothers husben listed as the father on the birth certificate and they're not together, she gave our son her madden name pending a dna test, which I had done, what shoulfd I do now.
I don't make alot of money, and I like to reprasent myself if possible.
I would like for Vital records and the state of Mississippi to recognize me as the father, i would also like to my get joint custody, I already giving her child support, I'm not having any problems with visitation, I see him every other day.
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My name is Lee, My son has his mothers husben listed as the father on the birth certificate and they're not together, she gave our son her madden name pending a dna test, which I had done, what shoulfd I do now.
I don't make alot of money, and I like to reprasent myself if possible.
I would like for Vital records and the state of Mississippi to recognize me as the father, i would also like to my get joint custody, I already giving her child support, I'm not having any problems with visitation, I see him every other day.
Represent yourself for what? What are you trying to do? Establish a formal custody arrangement? Have you been to court yet? Are you trying to get yourself named as the father? How old is the child? Was she married to her ex husband at the time the child was born? Have you received the results of the paternity test?
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:25 AM
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If no one is contesting then you can simply do a name change at your legal courthouse.
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QUOTE “Represent yourself for what? What are you trying to do? Establish a formal custody arrangement? Have you been to court yet? Are you trying to get yourself named as the father? How old is the child? Was she married to her ex husband at the time the child was born? Have you received the results of the paternity test?" END QUOTE

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If no one is contesting then you can simply do a name change at your legal courthouse.
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QUOTE “Represent yourself for what? What are you trying to do? Establish a formal custody arrangement? Have you been to court yet? Are you trying to get yourself named as the father? How old is the child? Was she married to her ex husband at the time the child was born? Have you received the results of the paternity test?" END QUOTE

LEGAL COURTHOUSE? As opposed to what? A NON LEGAL COURTHOUSE? And, you cannot simply walk in and change your name. There is a hearing before a judge and he/she must approve the name change.

BUT--LISTEN CAREFULLY--THAT WASN'T WHAT THE POSTER WAS ASKING. HE WASN'T ASKING HOW TO CHANGE HIS NAME. HE WAS ASKING HOW TO AMEND A BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

He is attempting to GET HIS NAME on the child's birth certificate --which means, as he has already stated, if the DNA test came back that the child is his ( which he did not state conclusively, hence MORE information needed) he must go to court to do so since someone ELSES name is on the birth certificate as the father, or else it is left blank. In any regard, he is apparently attempting to amend the birth certificate and this CANNOT BE DONE BY WALTZING INTO A "LEGAL" COURTHOUSE (whatever the dickens THAT is).

When I said I didn't need more information on the OTHER thread, it was after some dear misguided soul posted ELEVEN PARAGRAPHS OF NOTHINGNESS on another thread concerning a completely different subject. And I didn't need more information about her blathering to explain how the LAW works regarding ANY civil liability case. You had the same eleven paragraphs of information, and all you said was you NEEDED MORE information.

And, I don't need more information to provide procedural information about how to change the name on the birth certificate. BUT, I DO need to know what the posters OBJECTIVE IS--which completely escaped your notice---NOT a NAME CHANGE. But, getting a BIRTH CERTIFICATE amended.

I find it egregious you have nothing to offer but INCORRECT information. Telling the poster he can simply waltz into a LEGAL COURTHOUSE (wth that means) and change the name on someone ELSE'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE is not only stupid, it is ILLEGAL and FRAUDULENT to even attempt such a thing.

You, Sir, have no conscience whatsoever and you are not even a marginal liar.

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Old 06-28-2008, 05:21 AM
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No Matey Gracie, A Legal Court house oppose to a historical courthouse. duh.

Wrong again. The poster does NOT have to have a hearing in front of a judge. In my state and states differ greatly in matters such as these it does not matter if you are changing your name or altering the document, Yes a Judge will put his or her stamp of approval on the finale decision but most of the time the clerks know what the judge requires and NO hearing is required.

For someone that could not assist a poster without asking so many question you sure did give it an effort the second time around. To bad you were so off the mark,,, Again. (See I can write in red also.)

You mam are incorrect on another point. The poster can go into the County Clerks building (normally residing in the Court House) and pick up the proper forms to get the ball rolling. This is only if the document in question is in the same county. (Yet once again there are exceptions to that in any cases.

You, Mam would be HELD IN CONTEMPT OR LAUGHED OUT OF THE BUILDING IF YOU BEHAVED THIS WAY IN A COURT ROOM.

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Old 06-28-2008, 05:42 AM
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I find it hilarious that it is noteworthy to tell a poster NOT to go to a building NO LONGER IN USE ( Historic courthouse? )

A historical courthouse is STILL a legal courthouse--and, as in my locality, the historic courthouse IS still in use---what would you call one that is both historic and still being used? You are poorly spoken and even more poorly written.

Actually, in your state, WASHINGTON, this is the law:

Applications for Name Changes may be filed in the county where you reside. The process consists of completing a Petition for Name Change and an Order for Name Change. The original Petition is filed with the clerk in any district court division located within the county of your residence. Photo ID may be required.
Name Change fees vary depending upon the number of persons named on the Petition. The King County District Court fee for name changes is $110 (effective 1/1/2008) which includes the $53 filing fee, a $10 administrative cost, a $42 recording cost per named individual and one certified copy. Additional certified copies are $5 per copy.
Once the Petition has been completed, the case will be presented to a judge for approval and signature.

And, the law in virtually every state is outlined here : Name Change Forms - How to Change Your Name Legally - State Specific
" Court Order - A Court order is recommended to change your name and is required by most states."

I have no idea where you get your information from. But, it is, again , incorrect.


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Yes a Judge will put his or her stamp of approval on the finale decision but most of the time the clerks know what the judge requires and NO hearing is required.
There is a word for what you are alleging--it is called FRAUD.

AND you missed the POINT of this thread---stop hijacking threads. He isn't asking HOW to change his name. He isn't JUST asking how to be put on his sons birth certificate, he is ESTABLISHING PATERNITY and LEGAL RIGHT to a child--which means a judge will REVIEW the paternity test, declare it valid or invalid and rule accordingly. (this means take OFF another mans name and ADD his).

Don't take my word for it---read on: Texas Vital Statistics – Amending Paternity and Parentage on a Birth Certificate

"If the change you are wanting to make involves removing the father's information or removing one man's information and adding the information of another man, the supporting documentation must be a certified copy of a court order saying that the man listed on the birth certificate is not the biological father or that the man to be added to the birth certificate is the biological father."

Now, since you said it, name a SINGLE STATE where you can change the name of the CHILDS FATHER on a birth certificate WITHOUT GOING TO COURT. I DARE you to find a single state that allows that. You said it, now prove it. Name ONE. You have fifty to choose from. Name one that lets you walk in and change the fathers name on a birth certificate with a clerks approval ( eyeroll )without a hearing before a judge.

DO it. Show us your legal prowess. YOU MADE the statement----now prove it.

All you do is say I am wrong--but you NEVER reference a single source to PROVE I am wrong--as I have done here, linking to informational web pages from several states that clearly proves what the law is.

Do the same. Stop saying I am wrong--and PROVE it.

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Old 06-28-2008, 06:28 AM
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I am missing the point of the thread? All you do no matter what the subject is "Hijack" threads and give your Internet one minute search of knowledge.

What you are doing in this forum should and can be considered CRIMINAL. You only researched my state and not the Posters whom you could not assist earlier without a barrage of questions that you stated you never do. What you found may be true in some or even most cases but by far NOT ALL. You only involved your underrated undereducated self after I posted.

I would however continue to correct your madness but you are getting angry now and it was not my intention to hurt your feelings. I only wanted to offer my "service" to others and make friends on LegalMatch and that I have done.

If you decide to pursue your madness and not address the thread I will not be able to correct you until next week.

It is going to be such a beautiful day for a ride and picnic and I will not be on my comp until next week. Try and not wreck to many life's with minimal research while I am gone. You are clearly acting as a Internet attorney and this is not the purpose of this forum.

Try and get off the grammar hangup, I mean I responded to you at 5:30AM when I responded to my other emails and could not resist to reply to the amusement you so abundantly share. You will have to wait until after the weekend to be corrected and that is only if I find the time.

Work on your hair or something. Oh and thank you for understanding I am in a relationship and as the recent past shows you are not my type and it would never work out.
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:03 AM
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Once again, my hair...OMG.. too funny.

To "hijack" a thread means to change the subject. I have consistently stayed on point in EVERY thread, even though you diverted into rhetoric about the DOC or "legal" courthouses, or name changes on birth certificates ( when the ISSUE is PATERNITY).

"Try and not wreck to many life's with minimal research while I am gone"....omg again. LIFE'S? How about "LIVES"? Holy crap. There is a difference between typo's and a lack of understanding of basic grammar--something CRITICAL in law. Who ever heard of an attorney who goes into court ( or in your case, into the hallway) that doesn't know how to spell "our" or "ARE"? You are repeatedly making simple grade school grammatical errors. My dear, you couldn't graduate from sixth grade, much less law school.

"You only involved your underrated undereducated self after I posted." We are getting MORE basic. Scroll down, Skipper. I was the FIRST posting after the original question. First, THEN you were second. C'mon, you can do it. ONE, TWO. Maybe you can work on that while you are on, er, "vacation". LOL


You chide me for referencing YOUR state but YOU referenced it first by incorrectly stating that YOUR state did not require a court hearing ( and I provided the law proving you were wrong).

YOU stated NOT ALL STATES REQUIRE A COURT HEARING TO CHANGE THE FATHERS NAME ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE. You said it, I am asking you to PROVE it. It wouldn't take a moment to prove your point----do tell. Which state allows a father to amend a birth certificate without a court hearing? WHY AREN'T YOU ANSWERING? (snort)

In the meanwhile ---


DRUMROLL--HERE is the LAW from the STATE in which the poster resides:

Mississippi
Mississippi will NOT issue a new birth certificate. If a court order is received, Mississippi will issue an amended birth certificate with the new name and gender typed in the margin, but the old name and gender remain unchanged.
Contact information:
Vital Records
State Department of Health
571 Stadium Drive
Jackson, MS 39216
(601) 576-7981
Fax: (601) 576-7505

vrinfo@msdh.state.ms.us

WRONG again. (which is what YOU keep saying, but have yet to do the above---PROVE IT).

I'd go in "vacation" too, if I were you. ROFLMAO
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EEK I really don't have the time for a lax under educated stubborn want to be WHO GIVES INCORRECT LEGAL ADVICE. I have received personal thank you's from more then one reader and we find it hilarious that you find the time for such trivial pursuits. Don't you realize that no one knows who I am and you spend all this time trying to defend yourself with mini internet searches and possible lab research. You are ridiculous and your legal Mombo Jumbo is NOT to be taken at face value. You are in no way any assistance to this forum. You are a detriment to others and it is scary that you opinion is even allowed. Someone on the internet has to put write incorrect information and I guess you made it your responsibility to be one of these people. READERS, LOOK FARTHER IN THIS AND OTHER FORUMS FOR YOUR ANSWERS. THIS WOMAN IS A WANNABE AND DOES NOT CARE WHEN SHE OFFERS INCORRECT LEGAL ADVICE.
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READERS, LOOK FARTHER IN THIS AND OTHER FORUMS FOR YOUR ANSWERS. THIS WOMAN IS A WANNABE AND DOES NOT CARE WHEN SHE OFFERS INCORRECT LEGAL ADVICE.
STOP saying I am incorrect and GIVE AN EXAMPLE of one incorrect item I have posted as a matter of law like I did with your "birth certificates" comments, and "DOC" instruction.

You keep saying I am wrong, but haven't given a single example of an incorrect legal premise I have presented. You have time to discuss my HAIR, and engage in personal attacks ( and chide me to stop focusing on me--when ALL YOU ARE FOCUSING ON IS ME LOL) but you have no time to answer a single legal question?

None?

Didn't think so.

BTW, it's FURTHER, dear. NOT FARTHER.

"Has to put write incorrect information"? I'm not even going to hazard a guess as to what that means.

Oh, and "leagle eagle"---If you read my postings, I stated I was a first year law student. When my husband was killed on May 3 I took a hiatus from school to be a parent to my seven children whose lives were shattered at his horrific death---figuring it was the only conscionable thing to do since they are my first priority. Being both mother and father to young children is a full time job, as is being a serious law student. I could only do one well, so I made a choice--and I chose my conscience until my children find purchase, solid ground under their feet----my choice is them. I owe YOU nothing.

Your first posting here in six months not only doesn't ANSWER any LEGAL questions, it is solely focused on ME and my personal life (well, that and faulting ME for answering questions you have had every opportunity to answer but have not---Go figure). I submit to you, Sir, THAT says more about you, and who and what you are than I ever could.

Funny thing--I don't see you questioning this poster, who tells people to go to the DOC to get a court appointed attorney, or tells people they can waltz into a CLERKS office (since she "knows what the judge wants") and CHANGE a child's birth certificate (paternity) without a court order. No words for him?

I didn't think so.

And, by the way, while you are worried about reflecting poorly on other attorney's you might want to consider your usage of the phrase "US ATTORNEYS". Obviously, a man of your caliber knows that the proper grammatical usage would be "WE ATTORNEYS".

Scoff at presentation if you wish. But, making careless grammatical errors whether through ignorance or laziness reflects on YOU personally, both in AND out of the court room.

And, in YOUR free time ( since you felt entitled to comment on mine) perhaps you could either answer legal questions or review information on the usage of pronouns with appositives.

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