Speeding Ticket! Please Help

YOU told ME to 'read up on it'. And I posted from the MARYLAND STATE WEB SITE where it says points DO transfer.

NOW you say check with a harried clerk at some county court--don't take the STATES WEB SITE information as truth.

How about you provide a source for me to 'read up on it' where it says the points won't be transferred? I mean--after all, surely YOU "READ UP"on it to assure the validity and integrity of your information before making such a comment, right??

WRONGGGGGG.

You ARE the weakest link.

Grace still doesn't know much about traffic court. The speeder who posts the bond in lieu of court and fine and takes them up on traffic school DOES NOT go to court. The circuit court clerk will notify them if the judge doesn't accept the school... But that clerk will KNOW whether the judge accepts the traffic school... and will tell poster what happens next... meaning SCHOOL and sending his attendance affidavit to the Circuit Court Clerk... so she can take care of voiding the ticket and points. It may not go further.

Now if THAT clerk tells poster that the procedure WILL include sending the points to Maryland, then there is no benefit to attending the school and poster would want to contest the charges... but will most likely lose. Your response is still trash.

In my experience in Georgia, Kentucky, Indiana, Texas, Illinois, and Ohio, the points have never been sent on to my home state. Yes, I turn into a drone on six hour trips... or actually anything over three hours. That is when my foot goes leaden and I get tickets on the outskirts of large cities.

Indiana actually lets you off with a warning the first time... but if you are traveling through there a lot on long trips, they will eventually get you.

What the state DMV information states is accurate--your experience in bad driving record is hardly relevant.

And, the poster CANNOT go to SCHOOL in lieu of tickets. IF he does not appear, he is found GUILTY and the points are on his record.

THEN if he chooses to go to school, then the points in SOME jurisdictions ( NOT THE POSTERS JURISDICTION) are removed.

I have posted clear accurate information from the web site of the state in question.

Now, YOU post a tutorial on this fictional process you are describing. You keep saying I am wrong. No one cares.

PROVE IT. PROVIDE a legitimate source that says you can go to traffic school INSTEAD OF GOING TO COURT.

FIND it. Don't just say it and use your poor driving record as an example. Prove it. Do what I have done.

You can't and you know it.

So, keep saying "Grace is wrong, yada yada".

The poster can read the law for himself.

Shame on you.

Even if what you were saying is true--that he could go to school INSTEAD OF APPEARING IN COURT ( no proof of this because you cannot prove such a silly thing) The WEB SITE from the state of MARYLAND SAYS points are NOT removed from his license.

Yeah, good advice--IGNORE the information on a web site and call and ask a clerk who was HIRED last week and used THAT information to decide not to show up. ( eyeroll )

All Poster Has To Do To Prove You Wrong Is Call The Circuit Court Clerk And Ask About How It Works.

Keep On Crying In Your Beer. I Don't Need To Prove Anything To Someone Whose Advice Is Creepy And Wrong Most Of The Time.

Lets say he does call the court. Why the PRINTED WEB SITE of the court isn't good enough, is beyond me.

Lets say he DOES call the court. Lets say the clerk tells him WRONG.

He follows her/his advice. WHAT recourse does he have?

NONE.

However, if he follows the advice of the web site of the state in question, if they do not follow it, he can print it out, take it to the judge and ask the judge to ABIDE by the information on the OFFICIAL STATE WEB SITE.

What recourse does he have against some nameless faceless clerk? None.

And you scold ME for putting people in harm's way?

You are actually telling someone to make a judgment based on the advice of someone who WORKS doing paperwork?? WHAT BENEFIT IS THERE IN YOUR TELLING HIM TO DISREGARD THE INFORMATION ON THE STATES WEB SITE?

NONE. You just want to fuss because you got it so incredibly wrong---and I proved it.

A clerk may or may not be right.

The official web site MUST be right, or he can challenge his conviction based upon what is printed there.

Now, don't you feel silly??

YOU are the one saying I am wrong, yet you NEVER provide ANY informational sources to show where your information comes FROM. When asked to provide the source so people can ascertain the value of what you are telling them, your response is to tell me to 'cry in my beer'.

Aren't you silly.

You have no substance to what you are saying---no wonder you don't want people to click on links---it proves how foolish and careless you are.

You cannot substantiate the statements you are making. And there is no proof a CLERK, who does NOT study the law, and who may not be aware of changing laws would KNOW the answer to the mans question.

He has nothing to lose by trusting the OFFICIAL INFORMATION provided to him by the state in question ( not by me ). AND if it is wrong there, he can have recourse against them for providing false information upon which he acted.

Your saying I am wrong doesn't make me wrong.

PROVE IT.

Unless you can PROVE it, it's pretty clear what YOUR motives are.

I honestly feel embarrassed for you. How very childish of you to not only not avail yourself of a chance to learn something, but to discourage OTHER people from the truth just because YOU don't like ME.

Hate it for ya.

When did you get informed of the county involved?

Never?

Were you quoting Maryland? instead of Virginia?

No wonder.

Once again, Grace is using the wrong information and actually misdirecting the community just because she doesn't want to admit that the problem is HER inadequate knowledge of circuit courts in this country. So she lies that she has researched it.

NOT UNTIL SOMEONE TELLS HER WHICH COUNTY.

She isn't even using the right STATE.

ROFL! the COUNTY doesn't MATTER. AND I not only researched it, I POSTED THE INFORMATION here for people to READ for themselves:

This is what the poster said---------I know its sooo far down to scroll: "Newport News, VA. I was on a business trip driving a company car. I live in MD"

Got it? he LIVES IN MARYLAND.

NOW scroll and read MARYLAND LAW: According to the Maryland Driver's Handbook convictions reported from other DLC member states are treated in the same manner as if the offenses occurred in Maryland.www.courts.state.md.us/distrtict/selfhelp/traffic.html.


What in the world are you fussing about now?? HE LIVES IN MARYLAND. Here is MARYLAND LAW. It doesn't CHANGE from county to county.

I can't WAIT to see you 'splain your way out of this! ROFLMAO!

HERE Is the REAL KICK in the, well.....BEHIND: YOU told him to CALL the circuit COURT. YOU know the circuit court in which he lives??? Of course you don't. I never referenced the county. YOU DID.

What in the dickens are YOU drinking/smoking??

I am not sure how this got confused in your mind. Let me help you by breaking this long thread down into baby steps.

I provided the STATE WEB SITE.

YOU are whining about CIRCUIT COURTS---not me.

The STATE WEB SITE dictates what ALL the courts are bound by. So, who needs to know what COUNTY in which he lives? Explain why the county is RELEVANT.

It isn't.

You see where he said he was in VA when he got the ticket but LIVES in MARYLAND. You DO see that, don't you? I copied and pasted it in my previous posting since apparently scrolling is beyond your capabilities at this particular juncture.

And you see the QUOTE ( not made up by me ) that says RESIDENTS of MARYLAND who get tickets in states that are reciprocal, have their traffic tickets adjudicated by MARYLAND LAW. You do see that , right? Go head, scroll and read it. I'll wait.

Done? Now....

You see where it says the POINTS ARE NOT REMOVED by DRIVERS IMPROVEMENT CLASSES in the state of MARYLAND ( hope that short term memory is still kicking in---you do remember he LIVES in MARYLAND and MARYLAND LAW SAYS residents are bound by MARYLAND LAW?)

Your focus is always "Grace is wrong". BUT you NEVER have ONE time provided any PROOF of that. It would be gratifying if you would quit SAYING I am wrong and SHOW where I am wrong---and use something more appreciable and relevant than your OPINION.

The MARYLAND STATE ( not county ) WEB SITE is the source of the information I provided.

YOU are telling me I haven't 'researched' and I 'got the wrong state'.

Ok, YOU provide the RIGHT state then and YOU provide the research. No, you don't have to prove anything to me but you look foolish sitting here like a wet rooster crowing "Grace is wronggggggggg" but when asked WHERE I am wrong, you snarl that you don't have to PROVE IT. Pfffttt........You sit here and cackle how I am wrong, but you are OFFENDED anyone has the gall to actually say, "Oh, really? Show me what I said that was wrong."

YOUR reponse? *snarl snarl* I don't have to PROVE ANYTHING to you.

Isn't THAT a productive gesture. (pffttt...........)

Well, *puzzled look* I guess you don't need to prove anything to me, but it would be nice if you would either 1. stop saying I'm wrong because you WANT me to be wrong or 2. provide INFORMATION ( this IS an informational web site, yanno) to show where I am wrong so the poster can LEARN.

I quoted the MARYLAND STATE web site. You are suggesting the MARYLAND STATE WEB SITE is the wrong state.

You said it, right? What state IS the right state?

Try to answer without a litany of complaints about my ethics, my personal life and my hair color. FOCUS.

And what court will handle his ticket? Virginia.

What set of laws will be there to cover what happens? Virginia.

Who will control what happens to the points? Virginia.

Do states always cooperate with laws different from their own? NO.

Will Grace accept that she has less than adequate knowledge of traffic court since she has three times now stated that ...

1) the points always flow
2) the speeder must go to court
3) traffic school results in convictions and points

All of which are WRONG...

And she keeps on saying it. It is time to turn off her channel. She is afraid someone might realize she is just fluff.

WHERE DO YOU GET THIS FROM? Again, read this from the WEB SITE of the STATE IN WHICH HE RESIDES:

Maryland and Virginia are members of a Drivers License Compact (DLC) which allows violations to be transferred back to your home state's DMV, so in your case to the MD Motor Vehicle Administration (MVA). According to the Maryland Driver's Handbook convictions reported from other DLC member states are treated in the same manner as if the offenses occurred in Maryland.

NOW, YOU Show where you get YOUR information from. Who says VIRGINIA will handle the ticket? THE DMV SAYS MARYLAND WILL.

No, who said they did?? Not every state has reciprocal laws. BUT we know from the information from the DMV above (and below) that THESE two states in question DO participate in DLC. What other states do doesn't matter. We aren't talking about Idaho and Florida, we are talking about MARYLAND and VIRGINIA. FOCUS----on something besides ME, that is.


I would LOVE for you to PROVE me WRONG---but I have no idea what "the points will flow" means. CITE a single source for what you are saying. You have not shown a single SOURCE besides YOUR OPINION. Hon, I QUOTED THE DMV from the states in question. You cannot get any more accurate than that.

And, I did not say he MUST go to court. I said if he DOESN'T go to court he will be found guilty in his absence. And I never said TRAFFIC SCHOOL RESULTS in points. I said in HIS state ( read the law in his state) points CANNOT BE REMOVED by going to traffic school. I did not say points GET THERE because of traffic school. THEY are not REMOVED because of traffic school. Here is the quote from the MARYLAND DMV web page:

Maryland does not permit you to go to a traffic school (or attend a class focused on defensive-driving techniques) and have points (or a traffic violation) taken off your license.Maryland Traffic Schools Online Guide - Find MD Internet Traffic Ticket School Info - DMV.ORG

YOUR turn.

Show where the poster is bound by VIRGINIA law. Something other than YOUR OPINION would be most helpful.

Argue with the DMV all you want my little wind mill boxing Don Quixote.... it is to no avail.