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Originally Posted by TheJury'sStillOut
Admin, I will ask once again that you make note: I am complying with your request not "to attack each other and help others" here.
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Asking for you to provide an example of what you are saying to be so is NOT a personal attack. No need to take it personally when someone disagrees with a position you have taken. I try to illustrate MY point with an every day type of illustration that demonstrates what I am trying to relay. Asking you to do the same is not adversarial. I have not speculated on your personal life, your character, or your profession whatsoever. I am asking questions about and commenting on YOUR comments. NOT you personally <weighty pause>.
What happens, at times, in this forum mirrors what happens in a court room--LITIGATION. Back and forth, defense of a position. Neither attorney cries to the judge, "Judge, I'm TRYING to HELP HERE!!! Tell her to stop disagreeing with my helpful point I'm trying to make!!" That is absurd. Learning to defend your position will challenge your mind in incredible ways. It makes you look at information in different ways and makes you reconsider formerly held positions and yes, it even, at times, makes you change your mind, or conversely, cling even tighter to a previously stated position. Try it sometime.
The purpose of my asking you to provide examples of what you offering as sound legal suggestion IS to help people who read this posting. I am absolutely horrified at the thought of this young man either being afraid of something "from left wing" coming at him in court for a traffic ticket, as well as being saddened at the thought of his wasting time worrying about "other records" and more over--attempt to get a COPY of an audio log of a traffic stop that has no relevance whatsoever to his talking down the judge regarding his fine.
Attempting to save this young man some of his fear and angst IS helping, at least, judging from his thanks, it helped. (proud look---my little Grasshoppa, that he is) <little Yoda-like poetic license there> Feel free to disagree with anything I have offered---and articulate why you disagree with it as a matter of law. That is, in part, why we are here.