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Old 07-29-2008, 11:43 AM
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Hello everyone my name is Daphne i am under angeleyes889 pls help me my son is 18 yrs old being charged with grand theft.He is being screwed pls exscuse my lang.i am just so out of my mind,i am dying need liver he is all i have he has had a history of running away,we live in alabama i put him on prob to scare him straight he was put in juvi facility so he could not run away he got ged,welding cert. and pid fines all on his on while there glowing reports,was released 18th b'day.the grand theft happened before he went to juvi and was in fla during a runaway spell three adults with long criminial records took him across state lines forced him to participate in stealing vehuicle stabbed him in hand to make him,he was a runway and yes was drinking he is guilty of some of this crime anyway he jumped out two blks from owners house and put truck in a small ditch so man would not be hurt when he ran out after them.my son told police everything the 3 others were charged and my son was released to me pending juvi hearing in family court fla,then when court date came they canceled it due to the fact he was in juvi facility here in ala for almost 2 yrs he was there and the jpo in alabama talked with the ada in fla every month updating him on my son,still no charges were ever filed on the case.He turns 18 gets out comes home and 1 week later is stopped with friends in car and id's ran they take my son handcuff and take to fla and put in adult jail and charge with adult grand theft felony.I can't see him they hold him for weeks no way to get him out and no attroney goes to see him,then 1 day throw him in front of judge a scared kid in another state and say pick prob and go home or 5 yrs prision,he picks and comes home,well he did not follow all the rules i admit it,they took him again 1 nite and adult jail fla still there no attroney court monday aug 4th and he calls last nite paper was handed to him,da is saying 4 yrs in miami state prision.is this legal no charges ever filed was a juvi charge and jpo in ala said she would write letter about talking with da of fla every month even asked him when are u going to charge the child and how long can u wait in fla we meaing ala can only wait 30 days,then he says after he took him to fla adult jail he did not know where my son was for 2 yrs and now he is a adult so he is being charged as adult,if he knew where he was as juvi he would have been charged. PLEASE HELP ME I HAVE NO WHERE TO TURN OR GO DYING IN ALABAMA let madd also he was charged as juvenile and court date set then postponed due incarsiration in juvi fac. in alabama and then nothing ever came of it,until he turned 18 and was released as i stated in upper portion then it was a adult charge with claims of not knowing where my son was for a yr and a half.

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Old 07-29-2008, 12:06 PM
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I am sorry for your health problems. It would be nice if your son felt the same way, and altered his behavior to honor you and your place in his life and your presumed time left to live.

If you want to argue that somehow these charges should have been from when he was a juvenile, you are going to need a skilled attorney to argue this case. Although, I don't see why, if the crime was committed while he was under aged, why he is being charged as an adult. Consider the Sakel case (Kennedy cousin) who was charged with the murder of Martha Moxley when she and he were both under aged. However, it wasn't until he was much older that he was charged---and his attorney tried to say since he was under aged when the crime allegedly occurred, the guy should be charged as a juvenile, although some twenty years had gone by. He was tried as an adult since he was an adult when he was charged---the fact he was a juvenile when he allegedly committed the crime didn't matter. So, if you are going to argue that, you need a skilled attorney to prevail.

This case is confusing the way you have related it. I don't see much hope of your son beating this rap given his extensive criminal history---it seems he has failed to learn anything about life and that it is a precious gift, not to be squandered.

Your only recourse, at this point, is to hire an attorney, or plead with the public defender to be an aggressive defender, somehow convinced of your sons innocence---which is going to be very difficult.

Good luck.
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Consider the Sakel case (Kennedy cousin) who was charged with the murder of Martha Moxley when she and he were both under aged.
I think you mean Skakel.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:47 PM
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pls i need some glimmer of lite at the end of the tunnel, does not seem legal to charge a juvi with a charge as a juvi then due nothing wait tll they turn 18 and all of a sudden ooh we did not know where he was and now he a adult so he will be charged as one.....
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pls i need some glimmer of lite at the end of the tunnel, does not seem legal to charge a juvi with a charge as a juvi then due nothing wait tll they turn 18 and all of a sudden ooh we did not know where he was and now he a adult so he will be charged as one.....
If your definition of "help" is to tell you that your position has merit---you have come to the wrong place. I did help you---if you don't like the reality of the situation---don't fault the legal information you have been given. That doesn't change its legitimacy.

Unfortunately, how you or I feel about the judicial system isn't relevant. You or I may not think it is fair---perhaps you could channel your frustration and worry on your son--who is, sadly, responsible for this mess in the first place.

If you want hope, consult with a local attorney. Be careful you pick a reputable attorney--and not one who brags about himself and his accomplishments, (yet is slovenly in his presentation) is easily threatened by women ( you'd be surprised how many man won't help because you ARE a woman)---all the while never really offering anything appreciable OR relevant, and is threatened by others who clearly are superior. Choose wisely. Most attorneys give free or low cost consultations--look for one of those.
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I think you mean Skakel.
"Us attorneys" cannot compose a grammatically correct sentence, but you keep the spelling of murdering rapists in your short term memory.

GO YOU.

Thank you for taking time from your busy schedule to share your legal prowess and specialized expertise in an attempt at comforting this dear heartbroken, dying, and despondent woman. You are nothing short of a paragon of virtue, compassion, and the letter 'k'.

Thanks again for , well, nothing.
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Thanks again for , well, nothing.
Some advice. Go back to school. It is "pretenders" like you who give the legal field a bad name.

P.S. Don't spell case names wrong if you do "go back to school". Your professors won't think highly of you.
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:02 AM
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Default thank you sweet person

I would like to say hoorah for you,and standing up to the woman who thinks she walks on water,can do no wrong is perfect and finds fault in everyone but herself.If god made everyone as perfect as her,well the world would would be a stellar placeHer favorite word.....But honestly people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones (gentlgrace)there are good people like me who are alone dying disabled and come here for support and hope and you do nothing short of complain about us or our kids and act like ur god's gift get over it...............If you can not lend a sepathetic ear to someone in there 11th hour then keep quiet.I am sure people gave you hope and helped you out during your times of trouble and grief,angeleyes889
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I feel really stupid. I swear, I could just--well, sit down and bawl.

On second thought, eh, maybe later.

Silly me--I thought this was a LEGAL forum---typical ignorance though--not wanting the truth, or facts, just someone to offer meaningless platitudes and blathering rhetoric.

What is it you are here for? If you are here for sympathy, don't ask for legal advice. Your son created a lifetime of grief for you--and your solution is to attack someone who tells you to seek real life legal advice?

I did not attack you, I did not attack your son, I did not 'complain' about you OR your pitiful son----in fact I asked this highly skilled attorney to assist you in your time of need--and HIS reply was to add a "K" to my posting and you applaud him?

I thought you wanted an explanation as to why your son was charged as an adult. I never said he SHOULD be---that would be judgmental, wouldn't it? I did not offer any comments about his character, or his actions aside to attempt to explain WHY he may have been charged as an adult.

If you wanted meaningless platitudes, why did you ask for legal advice? The truth is anyone who chooses a life of crime does so at their own peril---lay the blame at his feet, not the feet of those who offer you an explanation for as to how the law works.

Allow me to borrow a line from popular movie culture--

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

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Some advice. Go back to school. It is "pretenders" like you who give the legal field a bad name.

P.S. Don't spell case names wrong if you do "go back to school". Your professors won't think highly of you.
Sweetie, as a former teacher, I can assure you that students making ERRORS is common--it is called LEARNING.

The problem comes in when they graduate, break into their respective field, medicine, law, education, etc. and make elementary simplistic errors that a tenth grader should have known was incorrect.

I can only imagine how embarrassing THAT would be. (pointed look)

As the old adage goes, He who knows not and knows that he knows not is wise--teach him.

He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool.

Avoid him.
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