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They were deleted for the same reason you cannot send private messages----abuse of the terms of service. That had nothing to do with me. The reason they were removed is because they were in violation of the terms of service---and was also the reason for the BAN---and it had nothing to do with me. You have been banned before---same reasons, primarily name calling, if I do remember correctly. It has nothing to do with DISAGREEING with me. It has to do with namecalling, and personal attacks (hair color, color of your soul, name calling, etc)---NOT merely disagreeing with INFORMATION posted.
And, this ISN'T a blog. Suggesting I OWN legal match is goofy--look at their home page. Contact information in California. Stop being paranoid. And if I were the ADMIN of this site, there wouldn't be spam filled links on TWO different threads at this moment. |
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You are actually admitting to name calling? I mean, everyone knows you do it, but you are ADMITTING it?
DID you know that NAMECALLING is a violation of the TERMS of SERVICE? What makes someone INNITIATE PRIVATE contact with someone then BLOCK them from replying? That, in a nutshell, is harassment. Twice now you have innitated contact with me and I have neither replied NOR contacted YOU outside of this public area. So, I will reply here---although I suspect when you read it, you will wish I hadn't. At one time you were banned and you were suspended from sending private messages. IF you set your PMS to reject, the system error reads, "SO AND SO HAS ASKED NOT TO RECEIVE PMS". HERE is what YOURS said--that you were PROHIBITTED from sending PMS: http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/SuedN1/boykinnoprivatemessages.jpg http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/SuedN1/boykinsmackdown-1.jpg Users of this site have the OPTION of IGNORING one another. However, when you FORCE yourself upon other posters by approaching them via PM when they have ASKED you expressly NOT to, that is a violation of the terms of service AND harassment--especially since you wrote to me a second time AND then BLOCKED your PMS. THAT is harassment. Innitiating personal private (not public in a forum like this) contact with someone who does not wish to have private contact with you and after being asked expressly not to IS harassment. AND I document EVERYTHING and I have fowarded my complaint to the ADMIN as well. Check out the links---they are to photobucket--even your "Grace, you need a lecture" PM you sent me in its entirety is there, too, in all it's grim glory as well as the last comments you made for which you were banned. Legal Match has no control over MY photobucket and posting things there is NOT a violation of the terms of service of THIS site BECAUSE no one HAS to look. You have contacted me unsolicited twice. If you persist, I will exhaust every legal remedy at my disposal to press charges against you for harassment and unwarranted contact. I've done it before via an online stalker--and I won. I support your right to say whatever you wish IN PUBLIC--if I don't like what you say, I don't have to read it---so that is not harassment, per se. BUT PRIVATE UNWANTED CONTACT is ILLEGAL HARASSMENT. I suggest you learn the difference. You dislike me here? Hon, get me in a courtroom. |
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Yes, I was banned for calling you things like argumentative and liar... but saying you lied is different from calling you names. It is a fact... and it is true. So each time you lie about what I say, quoting words I never said, I will say you lied... and you will just have to stop lying to get it stopped. Now does that sound difficult for you?
I have never been stopped from sending emails or messages. Yes, you complained that you didn't want messages from me, and I really have no reason to talk to you, knowing that you would only use it to try to hurt me. As for that three word message, it is the same one I put on here. It was not sent to open a dialogue. It was sent to show you that you ASSUMED something not true. Typical. I'll probably never see YOU anywhere. |
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GRAMMAR 101. LIAR is an accusation, slanderous, harmful to someones reputation and it is a NOUN. (against the terms of service to CALL names).
Saying I THINK SOMEONE IS BEING DISHONEST or I THINK SOMEONE IS LYING is NOT the same as CALLING them names. One is YOUR opinion to which you are entitled, the other is a violation of the terms of service. Feel FREE to state all you want that you think I am being untruthful--that is YOUR opinion and it doesn't bother me in the least. BUT name calling? Calling me a LIAR? I don't think so. THAT will stop. The administrator is bound by the terms of service of this site to not allow it. She doesn't allow it from ANYONE---find where I have called someone something like that. I haven't. Why? Because it is against the terms of service that I AGREED to when I signed. Would you call AGREEING to the terms of service then NOT KEEPING it--well--a LIE??? Yep. Learn the difference between saying I think what you are saying isn't true and calling someonen "liar liar". BIG difference. I don't think you are a LIAR. I think you are MISINFORMED and UNEDUCATED. I guess you could call misinformation and things that aren't true LIES, but that really doesn't fit in this context--because you are uneducated and misinformed and YOU THINK you are telling the TRUTH because you don't KNOW better. So, no, I would never call anyone a LIAR, even if I disagree with them. ANY contact that is UNWARRANTED and REPEATED after being ASKED not to IS harassment. What you are doing by contacting me repeatedly outside of this public place IS harassment. Check out photobucket? Your WHOLE entire letter--- HUNDREDS of words long telling me what was WRONG with my whole entire life is there. My husband, my kids, my personal life, EVERYTHING---you wrote to me about EVERYTHING including my intimate relationships. Now you say you have no reason to write to me!?? I agree. WHY did you and why DO you continue to do so? You remind me of the guy who is street racing a car and tells the cop HE HAD to break the law because the OTHER guy was saying HIS CAR was SLOWER and that's a lie--his car IS faster, therefore he is entitled to PROVE it and he is entitled to break the law. How foolish. PUBLIC. This is PUBLIC. People can choose to be here or not be here. PRIVATE is PRIVATE. You have no legal right to contact someone privately who has expressedly asked that you not. What do you? Innitiate contact AGAIN and then BLOCK your PMS so I could not reply even if I wanted to. I couldn't ASK for a better definition of harassment. Thanks. Repeatedly contacting someone, even if it wasn't meant to "open dialogue" IS harassment and is illegal. Who cares WHY you did it? It doesn't MATTER why. AND, in order for me to prove harassment in a court of law, I have to be able to PROVE that YOU KNEW contact was UNWELCOMED. THANKS to you and my capable ongoing record keeping--I HAVE IT ---check out THIS quote where you put in my hands exactly what I need, should I choose to used it: PROOF. Yes, you complained that you didn't want messages from me. There I have it. YOUR own words admitting that YOU KNEW today when you contacted me against my wishes for the second time, that you did so KNOWING it was against the law and was harassment. YOU said you KNEW I did not want private contact----yet you pursued it anyway. Do you think anyone cares what your REASON for contacting me was? It is irrelevant---it is still breaking the law. Rest assured I will be saving THAT gem. I have NEVER called a poster "liar"--if I disagree, I say WHY and prove why without stooping to violating the terms of service of this site. ANY legitimate point you may stumble upon is obscured by your venomous name calling. That's a shame... EVERY WORD I quoted was DIRECTLY FROM YOUR POSTING. Having an illness that precludes you from REMEMBERING what you wrote and then denying it later doesn't mean I lied. It means you have an illness that keeps you from recollecting accurately what you wrote, and your feelings and opinions change with the tide. What you do is not uncommon for people who are bipolar. But, blaming ME won't help YOU. Being bipolar is not a life sentence. There is help available and I hope you are availing yourself of it. If it helps to blame me for your confusion, please, go ahead, although it is a tragedy of epic proportions. And.........it doesn't make it TRUE. |
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You shouldn't throw stones at people who object to being slandered by you when you create incredibly childish quotes and attribute them wrongly to others and spend PAGES and HOURS of nearly violent rage (pictured by your insertion of color and special characters and the B-word comments) complaining of spelling typos and demanding educational levels you can't meet yourself...
It is your level of communication, dear, that leaves people wishing you had even a small modicum of reasonability. But what worries me most is that I always find that people with rage that drives them to provoke and attack others out of a sense of undeserved entitlement don't realize that what goes around comes around. If you lie about people, you will be called a liar. It is not slander to call you on lying about what I said. It is real and truth. I don't believe that the truth has to be given in all cases, but it really can help when you get out of control. Counseling would help too. I hope you realize that it is not difficult to get. But allowing your attacks without response is perpetuating your personal difficulties into disorder. This forum is giving you a kind of enthralling but increasingly negative feedback that you have begun to enjoy. It is this enjoyment that is worrisome... that you will find ways to get it in your personal life. I don't want to be party to that. Some people prefer to avoid you... to extinguish the problem. I've done that with IGNORE. But your attacks continue and I see chaos in your words. I feel for you, but I won't condone or mitigate your actions. You have some work to do. Last edited by boykinmama : 03-23-2009 at 10:13 AM. |
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ROFL! Violent rage?? I am the most laid back person most people have EVER met.
Now, passionate about my subject material? Sure. Rage? Oh, please. No one with a lick of sense spends the time here I do if they are "enraged". Don't project your hatred and anger on to me. I LOVE what I DO here---or I wouldn't be doing it? VIOLENT RAGE? Ohh, please, such drama. Dont project YOUR name calling and anger on to me. That is so silly. KEEP calling me a liar and you will be banned. Period. TWO people having a DIFFERENCE of OPINION does NOT MEAN one of the people is LYING. It means they are DIFFERENT. You lie about my "reasonability"---I am a 4.0 student in law school and am applauded by my professors for my ability to articulate and REASON an argument. YOU don't think so? No problem. BUT to call me a LIAR for it is silly. I disagree with you----I don't call you NAMES in order to do it. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CALL PEOPLE "LIAR"---you know this and you admitted you were BANNED for doing it before. Why would you do it again? If you want to STICK around and offer all this wealth of information you have to posters, why risk it just to heckle me? I could CARE LESS what you think of me. BUT if you are going to BE here, THE RULES APPLY TO YOU, TOO. Perhaps it would help if you actually READ the first amendment? IT ALLOWS me to disagree with you without being SLANDERED for doing so. LIAR and NAME CALLING is NOT protected speech under the First Amendment. Look it up. Pay attention. The way you confuse terms is frustrating. You cannot manfacture meanings then ascribe them to words. Disliking MY interpretation of the mumbo jumbo you post is NOT slandering you. It does not affect your character, your morals, or your ethics. Now, contrast that to PERSONAL attacks on my character, my ethics and my morals. Because YOU don't like the way your words are interpreted is NOT slandering you. Name calling IS slander. The difference is very real--the LAW understands it. I would suggest YOU study and learn the difference before you are held accountable for SLANDER ---DISAGREEING with what you are saying and explaining how your mumbo jumbo TRANSLATES to the average person has NOTHING to do with you PERSONALLY. You alleged I was the ADMIN of this site. That is untrue. Did I call you a liar? of course not. I said that was a foolish statement. Need to attack you PERSONALLY? YOU don't like the MEANING of your words. So when someone explains what you are saying in real understandable terms, you cry foul. NOTHING I have said is PERSONAL. I have never made comments about you PERSONALLY, not your appearance, your skin color, your grandmother, your hair, your husband, your family, your ethics, your morals. NEVER. Why? Because I don't CARE about those things. ALL I care about is MISINFORMATION. You, however cannot make a posting without the PERSONAL items mentioned above--NONE of which I have EVER EVER mentioned about YOU. It would be wise for you to learn the difference. Last edited by GentleGrace : 03-23-2009 at 11:38 AM. |
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Yes I made a B WORD comment---my comment was I DONT USE the word and I was AVOIDING using it EVEN when I was quoting someone WHO DID use it. You morph that into ME making vulgar statements. Shame on you. |
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Gee, Gracie,
You can't be charged with any kind of slander or libel if what you are saying is TRUE. What YOU said was NOT true, and it reflected on the emotional maturity of the person you attributed it to... and THAT can damage that person's ability to be heard and be given credence by those who don't go into detail to search out whether you were lying or not. It seems that is the usual content of your rants... that your fellow posters should not be given credence, but YOU THINK YOU SHOULD. The question is why you think your postings are more valid... you don't have a law license, you lack 1.5 years worth of courses at a minimum in even being qualified to sit for the bar exam... and it seems your argument is specious at best given that you cannot explain why you lied when you quoted a fictitious comment you attributed to her. So why did you feel you had to make up words and attribute them to her? Why do you continually rant that the rest of us are not lawyers... when you aren't either? But you should listen to what she has to say. You seem to enjoy these voluminous rants against others based mostly on credentials you don't have. |
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What you are saying is NOT truth--it is OPINION. Just like MY Interpretation of what you are saying is MY opinion. AND my opinon is NO WAY stops your "ability to be heard". Don't be silly. Commenting on WRONG legal interpretation is hardly posting EVERY posting about someones ETHICS and MORALS and calling them a LIAR. I said nothing about anyone's MATURITY. I said the LEGAL information they were purporting (you) was WRONG. Emotional maturity? Would that be the color of my hair, my parenting, my family, my free time, my ethicals, my morals and my all time favorite "liar, liar"? THAT IS EMOTIONAL MATURITY?? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO? HOW do you "slander" someone's EMOTIONAL MATURITY when they are posting "LIAR LIAR, YOUR LOOK LIKE YOUR GRANDMA WITH YOUR HAIR"?? ROFLMAO THAT is HILARIOUS! NOW, find a SINGLE TIME I have done ANY of those---ethics, morals, parents, kids, husbands, grandma's, hair color, soul color....... ONCE. Just once. NEVER. I disagree with the legally INCORRECT things that are being said. AND regarding MY ban? I was banned for saying "DONT BE A PIN HEAD" to someones whose user name was PEN HEAD". At NO time have I EVER referenced anyones ETHICS, MORALS, HAIR, GRANDMOTHER, COLOR OF THEIR SOUL, NOR have I called them a LIAR. AND--here is another difference YOU are still doing the name calling---WEEKLY SEVERAL of your postings are DELETED in their entirety for being abusive and vulgar. Mine are not. Post incorrect information and I will correct you---under ANY of your names. Only ONE of us (out of your myriad of names) is telling the truth about themselves, their gender, their education, etc. And I think it is important to tell people to take EVERYTHING they are told here and realize it at times not only comes from someone with NO legal training at all, it also can come from people with terrific prejudicial bias and unamerican sentiment and hatred and disrespect for the law that bleeds through EVERY posting. AND you have NO IDEA how much I ENJOY the fact it takes you TWO screen names to KEEP UP with me---actually THREE if you count "DENNY" to do NOTHING else but FOCUS on MEEEEEEEEE. And yes, my dahling it IS all about me. YOU make sure it is --in TRIPLICATE ROFL!! NOT to mention in PRIVATE. But we came to an understanding there now, didn't we? You talk about lies---while you have made explicit comments regarding my parenting---even now, you have NO idea where I go to school, and you have NO idea what classes I have taken, or how many years I have finished----you THINK you know--you GUESS then you write it as fact. And---I don't care. But that IS lying. Do you see me calling YOU names? How silly. AND I have quoted WORD FOR WORD ---exactly what she said. That is not lying. When I explain WHY as a matter of law, what she is saying, THAT is not lying. Just because you understand more fully the absurdity of the comments you make doesn't make what I am saying is untrue. HERE is a parallel for you. WHEN two lawyers enter a court room they have COMPLETELY OPPOSITE points of view. Is ONE LYING? No..... When one says something and the OTHER disagrees, do they shout "LIAR LIAR" at one another? Of course they do not. They SYSTEMATICALLY go through EVERYTHING the other person says and if they personally find error, THEY DISAGREE. They don't call the other person unethical, immoral, liars, they have grandmas hair, their PALE SKIN color, the COLOR of their soul................how silly. YOU aren't READY from a maturity or an educational standpoint to do what happens here. YOU aren't ready or able to understand what happens in a court room--for the love of God, you have PROSECUTORS at civil trials and guys QUASHING MOTIONS. He who thinks himself a doctor has a fool for a doctor. This is precisely WHY I am not on MEDICAL boards. I have NO medical training, and I am not a nurse, a medical assistant, or any of the other occupations in the rank and file. BUT hey, I had a doctor that hurt me once---so that can let me sit here and gripe about doctors, right? Thats what YOU are doing under ALL your names. I am your focus because you have no place to leave your anger about lawyers YOU feel are unethical and wrong. (nevermind you specifically asked ME for MY opinion REPEATEDLY) and I REFUSED to give it. You bring a wagon load of disgust and hatred for your legal failures and aim them at ME---because you never had the yanno what to do it in REAL life. Pretty sad....... and yanno? It doesn't affect me in the LEAST. You cannot simply do what you want and expect the law OR the rules to sanction it. I play by the rules. You call it goody two shoes. Hate it for you. The RULES apply to YOU, er, BOTH of you... all three of you. And they apply to ME, too. Because YOU cannot understand the difference between supporting an opinion with facts and allowing your postings to say nothing other "grace has no morals, you get to listen to GG's bull"........ not ONCE have I EVER said or done that. AND those are the rules. I play by them. You scorn the rules here as you do the laws of this country.........it really is very simple. There are laws. There are rules. You abide by them or face the consequences. I abide by them or I face the consequences. VERY simple. 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