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Old 06-25-2008, 09:14 PM
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Unhappy please help me to reduce the fine

Hi,
My case is: I moved into a building around one month ago. Yesterday evening I moved my mattress and TV into my apartment. But today the manager of this building told me that I’ll have to pay $500 fine for yesterday evening’s move-in. Her reason is that I violated this building’s rule because this building does not allow move-in after 5pm. I feel it’s not fair because of these:
1, Before my husband moved our stuff, he checked the front desk and was going to ask the doorman if we could move our stuff, but the doorman was not there at that time. He didn’t show up and tell my husband we could move in our stuff until we were almost done with the moving.
2, We didn’t damage anything with yesterday evening’s move-in.
3, We did receive the manager’s information package for telling us this building’s rule, but we thought we were just moving in our personal stuff, not like our first time’s big move-in. Plus, it says for all kinds of violations, the fine is $25-$500. It doesn’t say which kind of violation is for how much fine.
So, we think we should not be fined or shouldn’t be fined that much.
In addition, we think we were discriminated by the manager because we are Chinese. When we first moved in, she designed us a smallest locker, even we saw there were two vacant normal size lockers in the locker room. For yesterday’s situation, we think she should have only given us a warning but not given us such high amount of fine.
Please tell me if you have any idea to help us not to be fined or be fined as little possible.

please reply to mo_cailian@yahoo.com

Thank you very much!
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Old 06-26-2008, 05:34 AM
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Hi,
My case is: I moved into a building around one month ago. Yesterday evening I moved my mattress and TV into my apartment. But today the manager of this building told me that I’ll have to pay $500 fine for yesterday evening’s move-in. Her reason is that I violated this building’s rule because this building does not allow move-in after 5pm. I feel it’s not fair because of these:
1, Before my husband moved our stuff, he checked the front desk and was going to ask the doorman if we could move our stuff, but the doorman was not there at that time. He didn’t show up and tell my husband we could move in our stuff until we were almost done with the moving.
2, We didn’t damage anything with yesterday evening’s move-in.
3, We did receive the manager’s information package for telling us this building’s rule, but we thought we were just moving in our personal stuff, not like our first time’s big move-in. Plus, it says for all kinds of violations, the fine is $25-$500. It doesn’t say which kind of violation is for how much fine.
So, we think we should not be fined or shouldn’t be fined that much.
In addition, we think we were discriminated by the manager because we are Chinese. When we first moved in, she designed us a smallest locker, even we saw there were two vacant normal size lockers in the locker room. For yesterday’s situation, we think she should have only given us a warning but not given us such high amount of fine.
Please tell me if you have any idea to help us not to be fined or be fined as little possible.

please reply to mo_cailian@yahoo.com

Thank you very much!
What does the fact that you didn't break anything have to do with the fact that there is a policy which states you cannot MOVE things after five pm?

Bottom line: The written agreed upon rules. The fact that the door man yada yada--is irrelevant. It isn't his job to police movers. You admit you know the rules of the building and you agreed to them, yet attempted to "stretch" the rules--and received a fine as a result. I cannot imagine what legal recourse you have in that regard. If the rules state that the manager is free to assess a fine between 25-500 dollars, then the manager is free to do so.

Also, there is no relationship between your being allowed to 'bend' the "move in" rules and the locker issue. The possibility of her discriminating against you and giving you a smaller locker doesn't give you permission to disregard the clearly written "move in" rules. If you feel you are being discriminated against, seek legal counsel in your area. But be advised you have to prove her giving you a smaller locker is directly related to your race, gender, creed, etc. I am not sure how you would do that. Did you ask her at the time why you could not have one of the larger lockers? What did she say?

Bottom line--the rules, you agreed to them. The rest, unfortunately, as it relates to this issue, is irrelevant.
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